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[Justin Kirby]

I'd noticed that the was more than one Sir Charles Fox on The Peerage:

There is Sir Charles Fox, whose son Henry married Emily Josephine Knox:

http://thepeerage.com/p33244.htm#i332436

Then there is the Sir Charles Fox here:

http://thepeerage.com/p15522.htm#i155214

This is the same Sir Charles (my ancestors), so I'd thought I'd start at the top and work down in sections.

It's starts with a Francis Fox and Dorthy Ward, but I don't have much to go on other than this Rootweb reference:

http://worldconnect.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=sshawcross&id=I17182

Their son is the Dr Francis Fox, who's listed on The Peerage here:

http://thepeerage.com/p36412.htm#i364113

He married Charlotte Douglas, who was the daughter of Archibald Douglas, a merchant/privateer in Devon who who owned a ship called the Fox captained by James Verco which was possibly involved in piracy. There's actually a vast amount of information about this family as part of the Galton Papers in the National Archives, but it means going to Birmingham to look at them. Until then here is what I've found out.

Archibald married a Miss Hake in Honiton in 16 Apr 1765. She is probably called Mary and was the daughter of a Samuel Hake, a clothier from Honiton Devon.

Archibald and Mary had the following children:

1. William Archibald Douglas, d. 1799, Madeira Island
2. Susannah Douglas
3. Isabella Archibald Douglas, b. Bef 1793, d. 1801, married 1793 the philanthropist Joseph Strutt
4. Charlotte Douglas, m. Dr Francis Fox of Derby

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Strutt_%28philanthropist%29

http://thepeerage.com/p34718.htm#i347178].

4. Charlotte Douglas (married Francis Fox)

http://douglashistory.co.uk/famgen/getperson.php?personID=I27603&tree=tree1

William disappeared mysteriously on his way back to England from Madeira along with the gold he was bringing back.

As mentioned above Charlotte married Dr Francis Fox of Derby, and I found this reference for him here:

http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=nqNCAAAAYAAJ&lpg=PA593&ots=JCXNe7w8RA&dq=FRANCIS%20FOX%20CHARLOTTE%20ARCHIBALD&pg=PA593#v=snippet&q=FOX&f=false

"Francis Fox esq during a long and extensive practice in the medical profession obtained a celebrity rarely equalled. He married Miss Douglas sister to the late Mrs Joseph Strutt and has issue by her Francis, Douglas, Archibald, and Charles, and three daughters viz Harriet the wife of Ambrose Moore silk throwster Julia, and Charlotte, Francis Fox jun is a physician philosopher and chemist and by superior talent is rising into considerable eminence."

I deal with Charles first (Sir Charles Fox):

http://thepeerage.com/p15522.htm#i155214

The 3 sons and daughter were as follows:

Sir (Charles) Douglas Fox:

http://thepeerage.com/p36414.htm#i364133

Sir Francis Fox:

http://thepeerage.com/p36414.htm#i364134

Henry Fox:

http://thepeerage.com/p33244.htm#i332437

Isabel Fox (she listed on the Wright Family Tree I have copy of)


Sir (Charles) Douglas Fox and Selina (Wright) had the following children

i) Francis Douglas Fox, Esq., M.A. Cantab. , M.I.C.E., F.R. Col. Inst. (19 Kensington Square, S.W.), b. 15 April 1868, married 12 July 1900, Mildred Susan, d. of Rev. Joseph Harris of Westcotes, Leicester (no issue)

ii.) Mary Douglas (b. 12 Nov 1864, of, Sevenoaks, Kent), m. (2 Jul 1889 St. Peter’s, Norbiton, Kingston-upon-Thames, Surrey) Rev. Edward Harrison ASKWITH (born on 8 SEP 1864 in Ripon, Near York), son of Bank Manager and Stock Broker Thomas ASKWITH (born on 21 SEP 1816 in Ripon, NRY, died on 8 JUL 1888 in Ripon) and (married 9 JAN 1847 in Ripon Cathedral) Sarah Nowell JOHNSON (born on 13 FEB 1825 in Ripon, NRY, died on 8 JUN 1906 in Church Cresent, St. Albans, HRT), daughter of Christopher JOHNSON and Anne LAX.

[url]http://histfam.familysearch.org/getperson.php?personID=I124842&tree=Nixon[/url]

The following Children have been identified:

1. Edward Douglas Askwith, b. 9 Feb 1895, Brookside, Cambridge, Cambridgeshire,
2. Judith Margery Askwith, b. 7 Nov 1896, Selwyn House, Cambridge, Cambridgeshire
3. Beatrice Mary Askwith, b. 29 Jan 1900, Selwyn House, Cambridge, Cambridgeshire

iii.) Judith Isabel, m.1899 Rev. James Sedgwick Wimbush (b. 1866) of Terrington, Yorkshire (see here and here), who was the son of Samuel Wimbush (Rector of Terrington) and Catherine Jane Nicholson. James and Judith had the following children:

Michael Douglas Wimbush b.1905 Swainswick, Somerset.
John Bourchier Wimbush b.1908 Swainswick, Somerset.
Richard Knyvet Wimbush b.1909 Terrington, Yorkshire [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Wimbush]
James Christopher Wimbush b.1902
Samuel Humphrey Wimbush b.1904 Kensington.

iv.) Agnes Selina (never married)

v.) Lucy Adeline married E. B. Fitzherbert Wright.
http://thepeerage.com/p30493.htm#i304922

[Justin Kirby]

I'll try and now look at my great great great uncle Sir Francis Fox:

http://thepeerage.com/p36414.htm#i364134

According to the Wiki he married twice, once in 1869 to Selena Wright who died in 1900, he then married Agnes Horne in 1901. According to the Wiki, Fox had a son and three daughters from his first marriage.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sir_Francis_Fox

This may have been true at the time of his death, but I think there may have been 2 sons and 3 daughters:

Charles Beresford Fox (b. 14 Feb 1875, died 16th April 1912)
Dr Selina Fitzherbert Fox (Lena)
Edith Marion Fox
Mrs Walter Western
Francis Harry Wright Fox

There's a few sources for this. One's a very bad family tree which seems to suggest that Charles Beresford married Lena Fox and that they had a child called Lena Beresford who married Francis Harry Wright.

Then there's a newspaper clipping in my great great aunt Agnes' scrapbook is a clipping from Sir Francis' funeral, which mentions the following:

Lady Fox (Widow) [Selina Wright]
Mr F.H.W. Fox (Son)
Dr Selina Fox (Daughter)
Mr and Mrs Walter Western (Son-in-law and daughter)
Mrs Clive Davies and Miss Lorna Davies (Daughter and granddaughter)

It also mentions a Mrs C. Beresford Fox, so Charles Beresford Fox may have married before he died, although this is not mentioned in the following obituary from the The Institution of Civil Engineers:

CHARLES BERESFORD FOX, born on the 14th February, 1875, died at Toronto on the 16th April, 1912, from the after effects of an operation. The eldest son of Sir Francis Fox, M. Inst. C.E., he was educated at Harrow and Cambridge, and joined the firm of Sir Douglas Fox and Partners, Consulting Engineers, afterwards becoming a member of the firm of Wragge and Fox, of Toronto. He was successively engaged on the London extension of the Great Central Railway, the construction of the Victoria Falls Bridge over the Zambesi, where he sustained a severe accident, the Nile irrigation works, the Simplon tunnel, and other important enterprises. He had taken up work in Canada when his untimely death occurred.

Mr. Fox was elected an Associate Member of The Institution on the 5th March, 1901.

I'm guessing that the Mr F.H.W. Fox (Son) is Francis Harry Wright Fox, and the newspaper has got the relationship right.

In his book "Sixty-three years of engineering, scientific and social work" Sir Francis refers to his daughter Mrs Walter Western, but I can't find her christian name.


Edith Marion Fox married (Theophilus) Clive Davies, Esq., of Hawkley
Hurst, Hampshire. He was the Eldest son of Theophilus Harris Davies, Esq., of
Honolulu, and Tunbridge Wells, who d. 1898, and Mary Ellen, who d. 1907, dau. of the late George Cocking. Esq., of Ludlow.

Theophilus Harris Davies acted as a guardian of Princess Kaʻiulani while she traveled to Europe and the United States

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theophilus_Harris_Davies

In the 2009 film Princess Kaiulani it is suggested that Clive Davies was actually engaged to Princess Kaiulani.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ka%27iulani

Edith and Clive married in 1898 and from what I've seen had as son called Harold Francis Theophilus, b. 1912.

Mr. Davies, was educated at Uppingham and at Massachusetts Institute of
Technology (S.B. 1894), was formerly British Vice-Consul at Honolulu. — Hawkley Hurst, Hawkley, Hampshire; Bath Club, VI.

Edward Walford.
The county families of the United Kingdom; or, Royal manual of the titled and untitled aristocracy of England, Wales, Scotland, and Ireland .. (Volume ed.59, yr.1919)
. (page 98 of 415)

http://www.ebooksread.com/authors-eng/edward-walford/the-county-families-of-the-united-kingdom-or-royal-manual-of-the-titled-and-un-fla/page-98-the-county-families-of-the-united-kingdom-or-royal-manual-of-the-titled-and-un-fla.shtml
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I started a family history blog to try and find out a little more about our mysterious great great great grandfather George Goldsmith Kirby. I haven't got much further in this direction have joined a few dots on The Peerage site.